1 00:00:02,230 --> 00:00:00,490 foreign 2 00:00:05,210 --> 00:00:02,240 [Music] 3 00:00:05,610 --> 00:00:05,220 Cahill and you're listening to that UFO 4 00:00:10,070 --> 00:00:05,620 podcast 5 00:00:12,589 --> 00:00:10,080 [Music] 6 00:00:14,990 --> 00:00:12,599 hi everyone and welcome back to that UFO 7 00:00:17,150 --> 00:00:15,000 podcast my name is Andy and I am joined 8 00:00:19,250 --> 00:00:17,160 for a look back and a look ahead at the 9 00:00:21,769 --> 00:00:19,260 last few weeks and the next few weeks in 10 00:00:24,230 --> 00:00:21,779 the world of UFOs by Dan all the way out 11 00:00:26,750 --> 00:00:24,240 in Colombia still Dan how are we hello 12 00:00:28,189 --> 00:00:26,760 hello I'm fantastic thank you so much it 13 00:00:30,290 --> 00:00:28,199 feels a couple since we've done this it 14 00:00:33,830 --> 00:00:30,300 probably has been it's been a bit of a 15 00:00:35,270 --> 00:00:33,840 messy messy month it's been a busy day 16 00:00:37,310 --> 00:00:35,280 it's been a busy day in a messy month 17 00:00:39,110 --> 00:00:37,320 it's been a busy day a busy couple of 18 00:00:40,729 --> 00:00:39,120 weeks busy couple of months 19 00:00:42,229 --> 00:00:40,739 um your travels have settled down a bit 20 00:00:43,430 --> 00:00:42,239 now and we'll we'll finish off talking 21 00:00:44,869 --> 00:00:43,440 about you know what's going to happen 22 00:00:46,610 --> 00:00:44,879 with you and 23 00:00:48,229 --> 00:00:46,620 um your your kind of final part of your 24 00:00:49,790 --> 00:00:48,239 journey that you've been waiting on 25 00:00:51,290 --> 00:00:49,800 obviously we've been away for a while 26 00:00:53,029 --> 00:00:51,300 folks will know by now you've been in 27 00:00:55,250 --> 00:00:53,039 Mexico Colombia 28 00:00:57,170 --> 00:00:55,260 um living it up with the Cockroaches and 29 00:00:59,750 --> 00:00:57,180 the Ants just people falling in social 30 00:01:00,889 --> 00:00:59,760 media uh but yeah um getting right in 31 00:01:03,229 --> 00:01:00,899 Titan listen 32 00:01:05,090 --> 00:01:03,239 um I want you to look ahead because it 33 00:01:07,130 --> 00:01:05,100 was a quieter March hence there's been 34 00:01:08,210 --> 00:01:07,140 no real need for a breakdown there could 35 00:01:10,010 --> 00:01:08,220 have been some shows I could have done 36 00:01:11,810 --> 00:01:10,020 one of the solar ones and stuff but 37 00:01:13,850 --> 00:01:11,820 there was nothing really to shout about 38 00:01:16,429 --> 00:01:13,860 because it just seemed to go really 39 00:01:18,469 --> 00:01:16,439 quiet for a month Ross kilter even 40 00:01:21,590 --> 00:01:18,479 mentioned that when I spoke to him 41 00:01:23,570 --> 00:01:21,600 um social media was the usual either 42 00:01:26,030 --> 00:01:23,580 people arguing or kind of sharing the 43 00:01:28,070 --> 00:01:26,040 same kind of things maybe happening and 44 00:01:30,710 --> 00:01:28,080 the big token piece 45 00:01:33,830 --> 00:01:30,720 was Congressional hearings may be 46 00:01:35,330 --> 00:01:33,840 happening in April now people might be 47 00:01:36,830 --> 00:01:35,340 listening to this thinking yeah but 48 00:01:38,270 --> 00:01:36,840 they've been saying that now for ages 49 00:01:41,210 --> 00:01:38,280 and people have 50 00:01:42,830 --> 00:01:41,220 all I'll see is to be fair the same 51 00:01:44,210 --> 00:01:42,840 voices maybe have been seeing the same 52 00:01:46,609 --> 00:01:44,220 stuff for a long time and they keep 53 00:01:50,450 --> 00:01:46,619 moving things down the line a lot of 54 00:01:52,429 --> 00:01:50,460 people have said April slash May was the 55 00:01:54,230 --> 00:01:52,439 time realistically that these things 56 00:01:56,149 --> 00:01:54,240 would probably happen and get off the 57 00:01:57,830 --> 00:01:56,159 ground which is why I think it's fair to 58 00:01:59,990 --> 00:01:57,840 kind of talk about it now 59 00:02:02,510 --> 00:02:00,000 I stay away from and I know you do as 60 00:02:04,190 --> 00:02:02,520 well Dan the oh We Have Heard lots of 61 00:02:06,289 --> 00:02:04,200 big things are coming this month then it 62 00:02:08,029 --> 00:02:06,299 doesn't happen it's easy to go oh well 63 00:02:09,290 --> 00:02:08,039 yep things change and it moves down the 64 00:02:11,510 --> 00:02:09,300 line but that doesn't just happen with 65 00:02:13,610 --> 00:02:11,520 UFOs that happens in all walks of life 66 00:02:16,070 --> 00:02:13,620 and reporting sports you know 67 00:02:18,170 --> 00:02:16,080 wrestling's famous for it and such so 68 00:02:20,570 --> 00:02:18,180 it's fair to say that there is a chance 69 00:02:22,010 --> 00:02:20,580 that we do actually get some movement 70 00:02:24,770 --> 00:02:22,020 this month 71 00:02:27,229 --> 00:02:24,780 um Dan UFO hearings are they going to 72 00:02:29,990 --> 00:02:27,239 happen first off this month 73 00:02:31,250 --> 00:02:30,000 something in my in my intuition says no 74 00:02:34,250 --> 00:02:31,260 for this month 75 00:02:35,990 --> 00:02:34,260 um I I know Katie Holland reported that 76 00:02:37,369 --> 00:02:36,000 there's only two weeks this month that 77 00:02:38,809 --> 00:02:37,379 they can actually take place which is 78 00:02:40,790 --> 00:02:38,819 the last two week of the month um 79 00:02:42,350 --> 00:02:40,800 because the Senate is in a recession 80 00:02:45,110 --> 00:02:42,360 like they call it recess they're all 81 00:02:48,890 --> 00:02:45,120 going out recess 82 00:02:51,470 --> 00:02:48,900 um but yeah so we're pressed for time 83 00:02:53,570 --> 00:02:51,480 but a few people on social media have 84 00:02:55,309 --> 00:02:53,580 contacted the offices of different kind 85 00:02:56,770 --> 00:02:55,319 of committee members um you know from 86 00:02:59,150 --> 00:02:56,780 the album Services committee different 87 00:03:00,830 --> 00:02:59,160 reps offices 88 00:03:02,750 --> 00:03:00,840 um and they've all said that they're 89 00:03:05,869 --> 00:03:02,760 aiming for April and some of the people 90 00:03:08,089 --> 00:03:05,879 contacted were offices though we we you 91 00:03:10,790 --> 00:03:08,099 know we haven't heard the name of 92 00:03:12,649 --> 00:03:10,800 um these Senators before so they're not 93 00:03:14,390 --> 00:03:12,659 kind of on the front lines of asking for 94 00:03:15,890 --> 00:03:14,400 these hearings so it's fair to say that 95 00:03:18,050 --> 00:03:15,900 even if the hearings don't happen this 96 00:03:20,449 --> 00:03:18,060 month there is interest in them 97 00:03:22,729 --> 00:03:20,459 happening for sure and the interest in 98 00:03:24,770 --> 00:03:22,739 them happening from people who are more 99 00:03:26,089 --> 00:03:24,780 casually kind of related to this instead 100 00:03:29,210 --> 00:03:26,099 of you know have their name on the bill 101 00:03:32,270 --> 00:03:29,220 and that's April 2023 102 00:03:34,850 --> 00:03:32,280 just checking yeah yeah we're hopeful of 103 00:03:37,009 --> 00:03:34,860 April uh hearings this April this April 104 00:03:38,330 --> 00:03:37,019 would be what we're looking at okay that 105 00:03:41,270 --> 00:03:38,340 that's fair 106 00:03:42,410 --> 00:03:41,280 um and as a bit of a guessing game and I 107 00:03:43,789 --> 00:03:42,420 think there's people reaching out for 108 00:03:46,670 --> 00:03:43,799 comment and I don't know what they 109 00:03:49,309 --> 00:03:46,680 expect to hear uh for directly from you 110 00:03:51,770 --> 00:03:49,319 know DOD Congress and such other than 111 00:03:53,869 --> 00:03:51,780 we're not going to tell you anything 112 00:03:56,149 --> 00:03:53,879 again I get a little bit confused 113 00:03:58,309 --> 00:03:56,159 sometimes as to what people actually or 114 00:04:00,170 --> 00:03:58,319 what even I expect to happen in hearings 115 00:04:02,809 --> 00:04:00,180 what we're not going to get and correct 116 00:04:04,670 --> 00:04:02,819 me if I'm wrong is when we had the UFO 117 00:04:06,830 --> 00:04:04,680 hearing somewhere Live on YouTube last 118 00:04:08,869 --> 00:04:06,840 year under the Congressional Channel 119 00:04:11,990 --> 00:04:08,879 wasn't it the I think that's a hell of a 120 00:04:14,030 --> 00:04:12,000 thing anyway right yeah yeah 100 yeah it 121 00:04:15,949 --> 00:04:14,040 was and I think that was probably we 122 00:04:17,210 --> 00:04:15,959 were spoiled in this day and age without 123 00:04:18,469 --> 00:04:17,220 happening 124 00:04:21,110 --> 00:04:18,479 um what other people thought of it 125 00:04:22,610 --> 00:04:21,120 happened but we're not going to get that 126 00:04:24,530 --> 00:04:22,620 it's not going to be like a live stream 127 00:04:25,969 --> 00:04:24,540 it's not going to be headings out in 128 00:04:28,129 --> 00:04:25,979 public is it this is something that's 129 00:04:29,570 --> 00:04:28,139 more than likely going to happen behind 130 00:04:31,610 --> 00:04:29,580 closed doors 131 00:04:33,950 --> 00:04:31,620 and is it likely if it does happen in 132 00:04:35,270 --> 00:04:33,960 that way that we hear about it after the 133 00:04:36,770 --> 00:04:35,280 fact or is it going to be announced 134 00:04:38,210 --> 00:04:36,780 beforehand do you think 135 00:04:40,430 --> 00:04:38,220 yeah that's a really good point actually 136 00:04:41,330 --> 00:04:40,440 the the hearings that we're hearing 137 00:04:44,870 --> 00:04:41,340 about 138 00:04:46,490 --> 00:04:44,880 strange sentence um but you know we have 139 00:04:49,070 --> 00:04:46,500 we have some people kind of saying that 140 00:04:51,950 --> 00:04:49,080 folk from the legacy of UAP programs 141 00:04:53,629 --> 00:04:51,960 have come forward uh already to talk 142 00:04:56,510 --> 00:04:53,639 about these things kind of behind closed 143 00:04:58,129 --> 00:04:56,520 doors so if they're talking classified 144 00:05:00,290 --> 00:04:58,139 information then yeah you're right it's 145 00:05:01,850 --> 00:05:00,300 not going to be a public setting 146 00:05:04,670 --> 00:05:01,860 whatsoever 147 00:05:06,469 --> 00:05:04,680 if there is another public hearing it's 148 00:05:09,110 --> 00:05:06,479 more than likely going to be similar to 149 00:05:10,850 --> 00:05:09,120 what we saw with a bunch of gamesmanship 150 00:05:12,170 --> 00:05:10,860 and the big talking point coming out of 151 00:05:14,390 --> 00:05:12,180 it being that they didn't know the 152 00:05:16,990 --> 00:05:14,400 shortcuts for frame by frame on BLC 153 00:05:19,909 --> 00:05:17,000 media player or Windows 154 00:05:21,830 --> 00:05:19,919 right like that's the takeaway 155 00:05:23,150 --> 00:05:21,840 um it's incredible that we had UFO 156 00:05:25,550 --> 00:05:23,160 hearings 157 00:05:27,650 --> 00:05:25,560 broadcast Live on YouTube but the only 158 00:05:29,689 --> 00:05:27,660 thing you know people took away was that 159 00:05:32,029 --> 00:05:29,699 they can't use their computers 160 00:05:37,969 --> 00:05:32,039 um we we really need them to step up and 161 00:05:40,969 --> 00:05:39,590 um but there was an interesting comment 162 00:05:44,830 --> 00:05:40,979 from from Lou 163 00:05:48,590 --> 00:05:44,840 um in Liberation times because 164 00:05:51,650 --> 00:05:48,600 sorry from Luis alizando Ex director of 165 00:05:54,290 --> 00:05:51,660 the uh pentagon's Atif program yeah 166 00:05:55,850 --> 00:05:54,300 there we go and Lou said let's not 167 00:05:57,590 --> 00:05:55,860 forget that moultrie's office is the 168 00:05:59,450 --> 00:05:57,600 same office for which I worked in the 169 00:06:01,310 --> 00:05:59,460 past it is the same office that 170 00:06:02,990 --> 00:06:01,320 continuously lied about this topic to 171 00:06:04,850 --> 00:06:03,000 Congress and the American people and 172 00:06:07,129 --> 00:06:04,860 it's the same office that persecuted 173 00:06:08,930 --> 00:06:07,139 whistleblowers now Moultrie is one of 174 00:06:11,210 --> 00:06:08,940 the people who was present during that 175 00:06:14,270 --> 00:06:11,220 hearing being asked questions and kind 176 00:06:16,550 --> 00:06:14,280 of giving giving the answers so 177 00:06:19,249 --> 00:06:16,560 in in a way I remember watching and kind 178 00:06:20,810 --> 00:06:19,259 of thinking you know this is a guy 179 00:06:22,969 --> 00:06:20,820 that's kind of getting on in years and 180 00:06:24,290 --> 00:06:22,979 he's probably got 15 000 things to 181 00:06:26,510 --> 00:06:24,300 remember that day and he's being asked 182 00:06:28,610 --> 00:06:26,520 about UFOs and yeah he clearly wants to 183 00:06:31,790 --> 00:06:28,620 kind of get through to lunch you know 184 00:06:33,409 --> 00:06:31,800 um but after that comment from it went a 185 00:06:35,689 --> 00:06:33,419 bit like well maybe it's a bit of a and 186 00:06:37,430 --> 00:06:35,699 bit of b as well you know there's like 187 00:06:40,249 --> 00:06:37,440 some strawmanship going on there's some 188 00:06:43,010 --> 00:06:40,259 nothing to see here going on you know 189 00:06:45,950 --> 00:06:43,020 um we we still don't have pictures of 190 00:06:47,749 --> 00:06:45,960 the shot down objects Over America so 191 00:06:49,490 --> 00:06:47,759 and and I imagine that would come up in 192 00:06:50,809 --> 00:06:49,500 the UAP hearings because you know 193 00:06:53,150 --> 00:06:50,819 they're unidentified and they were 194 00:06:55,670 --> 00:06:53,160 objects in the airspace 195 00:06:56,510 --> 00:06:55,680 um so yeah I don't really think we're 196 00:06:58,430 --> 00:06:56,520 gonna 197 00:07:00,650 --> 00:06:58,440 will get the hearings but they're not 198 00:07:02,510 --> 00:07:00,660 gonna be the spectacular things where 199 00:07:05,330 --> 00:07:02,520 they wheel out the bodies again and you 200 00:07:07,249 --> 00:07:05,340 know show off all these incredible sorry 201 00:07:09,590 --> 00:07:07,259 Dan we load the bodies again when did 202 00:07:12,409 --> 00:07:09,600 they last we all them out did you see 203 00:07:14,210 --> 00:07:12,419 something that I didn't oh I yeah there 204 00:07:16,010 --> 00:07:14,220 was a fruiting and stuff right unless 205 00:07:17,570 --> 00:07:16,020 we've not talked about that too much 206 00:07:20,150 --> 00:07:17,580 give him have been quieter for a few 207 00:07:22,309 --> 00:07:20,160 weeks recording these not to say track 208 00:07:24,290 --> 00:07:22,319 too much but regarding those shutdowns 209 00:07:27,409 --> 00:07:24,300 we won't recover that old ground 210 00:07:29,749 --> 00:07:27,419 since then there were some releases of 211 00:07:31,850 --> 00:07:29,759 videos or photographs not just us but 212 00:07:34,010 --> 00:07:31,860 from other countries where we have seen 213 00:07:37,189 --> 00:07:34,020 objects being shot down by various 214 00:07:39,290 --> 00:07:37,199 military personnel not UFOs in the sense 215 00:07:41,749 --> 00:07:39,300 that we talk about UFOs but unidentified 216 00:07:43,790 --> 00:07:41,759 objects that were likely adversarial 217 00:07:46,430 --> 00:07:43,800 technology surveillance drones hobby 218 00:07:47,629 --> 00:07:46,440 balloons that stuff was released that 219 00:07:49,909 --> 00:07:47,639 that was fine 220 00:07:51,650 --> 00:07:49,919 is it fair to say at this point the 221 00:07:53,990 --> 00:07:51,660 three objects that may or may not have 222 00:07:56,150 --> 00:07:54,000 been shot down by the us we're not going 223 00:07:58,909 --> 00:07:56,160 to see that stuff released we're not 224 00:08:02,029 --> 00:07:58,919 going to find out what it was and it's 225 00:08:04,370 --> 00:08:02,039 best probably in the short term to move 226 00:08:06,589 --> 00:08:04,380 on from that because 227 00:08:09,110 --> 00:08:06,599 that it's not coming out 228 00:08:11,450 --> 00:08:09,120 yeah I'd say you're right um you know 229 00:08:13,850 --> 00:08:11,460 they've issued I think two and I say 230 00:08:15,770 --> 00:08:13,860 they the dod have issued 231 00:08:18,050 --> 00:08:15,780 um two notices now that they're not 232 00:08:19,969 --> 00:08:18,060 going to be releasing the evidence yeah 233 00:08:21,050 --> 00:08:19,979 um for whatever reason pictures yeah for 234 00:08:22,969 --> 00:08:21,060 whatever reason and they could be 235 00:08:24,469 --> 00:08:22,979 multiple reasons right like 236 00:08:25,550 --> 00:08:24,479 a lot of people kind of think that that 237 00:08:27,409 --> 00:08:25,560 means 238 00:08:30,110 --> 00:08:27,419 that you know they're not denying it's 239 00:08:31,969 --> 00:08:30,120 aliens therefore it's aliens when it 240 00:08:35,810 --> 00:08:31,979 simply means that it has Intelligence 241 00:08:38,510 --> 00:08:35,820 value which could be anything from don't 242 00:08:41,089 --> 00:08:38,520 show the world that the US spent you 243 00:08:43,730 --> 00:08:41,099 know almost Millions uh shooting down a 244 00:08:46,010 --> 00:08:43,740 small hobby balloon yeah um it could be 245 00:08:47,449 --> 00:08:46,020 we don't want China to know that we know 246 00:08:49,550 --> 00:08:47,459 that they know you know like that those 247 00:08:51,350 --> 00:08:49,560 kind of the games right 248 00:08:52,970 --> 00:08:51,360 um but yeah we're we're not going to see 249 00:08:56,210 --> 00:08:52,980 anything from them 250 00:08:57,650 --> 00:08:56,220 um and it's it's weird to kind of see 251 00:08:59,090 --> 00:08:57,660 that emotion and see in the myth 252 00:09:01,490 --> 00:08:59,100 building happening because a lot of 253 00:09:03,590 --> 00:09:01,500 people are already calling this uh I saw 254 00:09:05,870 --> 00:09:03,600 someone on Reddit comment that we just 255 00:09:08,690 --> 00:09:05,880 witnessed them on day Roswell 256 00:09:09,829 --> 00:09:08,700 I was like did we but also I kind of 257 00:09:11,870 --> 00:09:09,839 understand where they're coming from 258 00:09:13,550 --> 00:09:11,880 I've seen a lot of that comment from 259 00:09:17,030 --> 00:09:13,560 various different people as well and I I 260 00:09:18,170 --> 00:09:17,040 like you I get it but I don't think so I 261 00:09:20,630 --> 00:09:18,180 don't think we're going to look back on 262 00:09:22,670 --> 00:09:20,640 these events in 20 30 40 years and go ah 263 00:09:24,949 --> 00:09:22,680 that was aliens or that was something 264 00:09:28,130 --> 00:09:24,959 exotic I don't think it was 265 00:09:31,070 --> 00:09:28,140 for me and this might change my opinion 266 00:09:34,430 --> 00:09:31,080 on a lot of things tends to be fluid 267 00:09:37,130 --> 00:09:34,440 I think they've made a point of 268 00:09:39,530 --> 00:09:37,140 not setting a precedent by releasing 269 00:09:41,509 --> 00:09:39,540 this stuff to go okay here's the footage 270 00:09:43,610 --> 00:09:41,519 here are the pictures because then what 271 00:09:45,530 --> 00:09:43,620 happens next time we're not releasing it 272 00:09:46,970 --> 00:09:45,540 or why not you released it last time so 273 00:09:49,790 --> 00:09:46,980 they're better just sticking to their 274 00:09:51,829 --> 00:09:49,800 quote unquote guns and saying no we're 275 00:09:53,750 --> 00:09:51,839 not really sing it because once they do 276 00:09:55,430 --> 00:09:53,760 it's well you've done it once you can do 277 00:09:56,990 --> 00:09:55,440 it again and they're better just keeping 278 00:09:59,389 --> 00:09:57,000 up their the frustration not that I 279 00:10:01,310 --> 00:09:59,399 agree with it you know release at all 280 00:10:02,449 --> 00:10:01,320 I'm happy to see you know whatever it is 281 00:10:04,850 --> 00:10:02,459 they've got 282 00:10:07,790 --> 00:10:04,860 um people can cut that comment use it 283 00:10:09,889 --> 00:10:07,800 whatever they like uh but realizing how 284 00:10:13,310 --> 00:10:09,899 that sounds like the fans want those 285 00:10:13,970 --> 00:10:13,320 movies 100 yeah yeah release them all 286 00:10:16,910 --> 00:10:13,980 um 287 00:10:18,410 --> 00:10:16,920 I I get why not agreeing with it but I 288 00:10:20,870 --> 00:10:18,420 get why they've probably just went no 289 00:10:23,150 --> 00:10:20,880 we're just not releasing it the who are 290 00:10:24,769 --> 00:10:23,160 we answering to here people like me knew 291 00:10:26,389 --> 00:10:24,779 we've got no right to demand it we're 292 00:10:28,009 --> 00:10:26,399 not US citizens 293 00:10:30,650 --> 00:10:28,019 so anyone listening to this who has a 294 00:10:32,090 --> 00:10:30,660 U.S citizen U.S taxpayer I get that they 295 00:10:33,470 --> 00:10:32,100 would say well we do have the right and 296 00:10:34,490 --> 00:10:33,480 of course you can absolutely scream to 297 00:10:37,430 --> 00:10:34,500 the heavens about that kind of stuff 298 00:10:38,930 --> 00:10:37,440 they're still not going to to give in to 299 00:10:40,370 --> 00:10:38,940 the public as well on that unfortunately 300 00:10:42,970 --> 00:10:40,380 because that's just not how this kind of 301 00:10:45,470 --> 00:10:42,980 stuff works so yeah 302 00:10:48,170 --> 00:10:45,480 a really important thing there um I was 303 00:10:51,110 --> 00:10:48,180 speaking to a mutual friend who knows Dr 304 00:10:52,310 --> 00:10:51,120 Sean Kirkpatrick and there was a tweet a 305 00:10:54,470 --> 00:10:52,320 little while ago I can't remember who it 306 00:10:55,850 --> 00:10:54,480 was from but they said uh you know we 307 00:10:57,889 --> 00:10:55,860 need Kirkpatrick to come into these 308 00:10:59,389 --> 00:10:57,899 hearings and we need him to bring all 309 00:11:00,949 --> 00:10:59,399 the evidence he has on anything 310 00:11:02,750 --> 00:11:00,959 anomalous and just dump her on the table 311 00:11:05,389 --> 00:11:02,760 and show us everything 312 00:11:07,430 --> 00:11:05,399 um I fired that message off to the 313 00:11:10,250 --> 00:11:07,440 mutual friend and the mutual friend gave 314 00:11:12,590 --> 00:11:10,260 me an answer of just why why would he do 315 00:11:14,389 --> 00:11:12,600 that and after a bit of conversation it 316 00:11:17,030 --> 00:11:14,399 just came down to like what's the value 317 00:11:18,769 --> 00:11:17,040 in playing your hand instead of letting 318 00:11:20,810 --> 00:11:18,779 your adversaries be confused if we're 319 00:11:23,210 --> 00:11:20,820 frustrated imagine how China or Russia 320 00:11:25,730 --> 00:11:23,220 feels that that's a positive thing to 321 00:11:27,590 --> 00:11:25,740 have uh in terms of intelligence so in 322 00:11:29,329 --> 00:11:27,600 that kind of soft power go away 323 00:11:31,610 --> 00:11:29,339 yeah hashtag thoughts and prayers for 324 00:11:33,350 --> 00:11:31,620 China and Russia on that one 325 00:11:35,269 --> 00:11:33,360 um I think you touched on this before 326 00:11:36,829 --> 00:11:35,279 but we you mentioned uh whistleblowers 327 00:11:39,410 --> 00:11:36,839 potentially having already come forward 328 00:11:41,210 --> 00:11:39,420 to testify to Arrow 329 00:11:43,310 --> 00:11:41,220 um that'll be our take at the James Fox 330 00:11:45,530 --> 00:11:43,320 comments that happened on the amazing 331 00:11:48,290 --> 00:11:45,540 people podcast I saw it shared on 332 00:11:50,150 --> 00:11:48,300 Twitter by Mike Colangelo Colangelo 333 00:11:52,730 --> 00:11:50,160 sorry Mike whatever one it is but yeah 334 00:11:56,269 --> 00:11:52,740 Colin jail I'll go with sounds cooler 335 00:11:57,470 --> 00:11:56,279 um so let's see yeah it makes it yeah 336 00:12:00,829 --> 00:11:57,480 um but on the on the amazing people 337 00:12:01,850 --> 00:12:00,839 podcast James Fox said that here are the 338 00:12:03,949 --> 00:12:01,860 bullet points more than three 339 00:12:05,150 --> 00:12:03,959 whistleblowers have testified I liked 340 00:12:07,490 --> 00:12:05,160 the way he actually said it though he 341 00:12:08,389 --> 00:12:07,500 said not one not two not three more than 342 00:12:11,210 --> 00:12:08,399 three 343 00:12:11,990 --> 00:12:11,220 um a stop short of saying four could be 344 00:12:16,009 --> 00:12:12,000 more 345 00:12:17,449 --> 00:12:16,019 have testified to Arrow the individuals 346 00:12:18,170 --> 00:12:17,459 have not gone public we don't know their 347 00:12:20,750 --> 00:12:18,180 names 348 00:12:23,569 --> 00:12:20,760 he said that as part of this that they 349 00:12:25,550 --> 00:12:23,579 confirmed UFO crash retrievals uh UFO 350 00:12:26,990 --> 00:12:25,560 crash retrieval programs exist I'll come 351 00:12:28,970 --> 00:12:27,000 back to that one Dan 352 00:12:30,530 --> 00:12:28,980 some whistleblowers are still employed 353 00:12:32,449 --> 00:12:30,540 in these programs and these 354 00:12:35,210 --> 00:12:32,459 whistleblowers can walk you inside the 355 00:12:36,650 --> 00:12:35,220 labs okay going back to that point 356 00:12:38,870 --> 00:12:36,660 because I think this would be one of the 357 00:12:41,810 --> 00:12:38,880 big things to come from it UFO crash 358 00:12:43,670 --> 00:12:41,820 retrieval programs exist given what 359 00:12:46,129 --> 00:12:43,680 we've seen in recent months and and 360 00:12:48,110 --> 00:12:46,139 years in terms of foreign adversarial 361 00:12:50,389 --> 00:12:48,120 Tech and I think we're past the point of 362 00:12:52,430 --> 00:12:50,399 doubting now that China at least has 363 00:12:54,050 --> 00:12:52,440 some very cool technology that the US 364 00:12:56,750 --> 00:12:54,060 would love to get their hands on and no 365 00:12:59,930 --> 00:12:56,760 doubt vice versa is it fair to say that 366 00:13:02,090 --> 00:12:59,940 at least some of these types of programs 367 00:13:04,730 --> 00:13:02,100 are going to be about collecting foreign 368 00:13:06,710 --> 00:13:04,740 technology and not necessarily alien 369 00:13:09,350 --> 00:13:06,720 slash UFO technology 370 00:13:12,290 --> 00:13:09,360 I I can almost hear one of our listeners 371 00:13:14,509 --> 00:13:12,300 kind of saying foreign still means alien 372 00:13:15,889 --> 00:13:14,519 um but you're absolutely right 373 00:13:17,569 --> 00:13:15,899 um you know there's a whole host of 374 00:13:19,730 --> 00:13:17,579 reasons that a crash retrieval program 375 00:13:23,389 --> 00:13:19,740 Could Happen uh we have a number of 376 00:13:25,910 --> 00:13:23,399 reports historically where kind of 377 00:13:28,310 --> 00:13:25,920 crashed craft or wood you know 378 00:13:31,009 --> 00:13:28,320 sequestered away to bases and and later 379 00:13:32,509 --> 00:13:31,019 out later on uh the authority said you 380 00:13:33,949 --> 00:13:32,519 know that was just a down satellite and 381 00:13:35,690 --> 00:13:33,959 things like that 382 00:13:40,009 --> 00:13:35,700 um which have now kind of entered into 383 00:13:41,569 --> 00:13:40,019 UFO law but actually realistically could 384 00:13:42,889 --> 00:13:41,579 have been satellites or foreign 385 00:13:44,269 --> 00:13:42,899 platforms 386 00:13:45,470 --> 00:13:44,279 um and they absolutely have to keep an 387 00:13:47,150 --> 00:13:45,480 eye out for this kind of stuff because 388 00:13:49,730 --> 00:13:47,160 it gives them information right there 389 00:13:51,850 --> 00:13:49,740 was a article about the the Chinese 390 00:13:54,110 --> 00:13:51,860 balloon again and the kind of 391 00:13:55,009 --> 00:13:54,120 electronic signals it could have soaked 392 00:13:56,810 --> 00:13:55,019 up 393 00:13:58,730 --> 00:13:56,820 um and so they're always looking to to 394 00:14:00,889 --> 00:13:58,740 see you know what the adversaries are 395 00:14:03,430 --> 00:14:00,899 doing and the Crash retrieval program 396 00:14:05,750 --> 00:14:03,440 you know it's a vague enough term that 397 00:14:08,629 --> 00:14:05,760 retrieving anything that's crashed is 398 00:14:11,269 --> 00:14:08,639 basically the the bottom line for it 399 00:14:13,009 --> 00:14:11,279 um part of me wonders if anyone in these 400 00:14:14,569 --> 00:14:13,019 programs had maybe 401 00:14:16,670 --> 00:14:14,579 seen something when they've been 402 00:14:18,829 --> 00:14:16,680 retrieving it and kind of misinterpreted 403 00:14:21,410 --> 00:14:18,839 the situation so say for example you 404 00:14:24,829 --> 00:14:21,420 know in the 70s if Doris on a farm kind 405 00:14:26,690 --> 00:14:24,839 of sees a crashed I don't know aluminum 406 00:14:28,250 --> 00:14:26,700 kind of giant balloon 407 00:14:30,530 --> 00:14:28,260 um cheat interpret is something slightly 408 00:14:32,449 --> 00:14:30,540 different because you know it's just out 409 00:14:34,310 --> 00:14:32,459 of her world kind of thing 410 00:14:36,769 --> 00:14:34,320 and I always think with that one as well 411 00:14:38,690 --> 00:14:36,779 and I suppose this is going back 412 00:14:40,310 --> 00:14:38,700 God I would hate to think this kind of 413 00:14:45,710 --> 00:14:40,320 stuff still happens in modern day but 414 00:14:48,110 --> 00:14:45,720 the use of live bodies or formerly live 415 00:14:50,389 --> 00:14:48,120 bodies in high altitude programs 416 00:14:52,850 --> 00:14:50,399 crashing to Earth and then being either 417 00:14:54,650 --> 00:14:52,860 disfigured burned badly 418 00:14:56,210 --> 00:14:54,660 um and then being identified as 419 00:14:57,829 --> 00:14:56,220 something else and I know that's been 420 00:15:00,290 --> 00:14:57,839 something that's been rumored for for 421 00:15:02,569 --> 00:15:00,300 various different events such as even 422 00:15:04,730 --> 00:15:02,579 Roswell that it was you know um 423 00:15:07,250 --> 00:15:04,740 radiation but you know it was radiation 424 00:15:08,689 --> 00:15:07,260 it had deformed 425 00:15:10,189 --> 00:15:08,699 um prisoners of War things like that 426 00:15:11,930 --> 00:15:10,199 right and I get that's all kind of 427 00:15:13,970 --> 00:15:11,940 conspiracy stuff as well 428 00:15:16,310 --> 00:15:13,980 um 429 00:15:17,870 --> 00:15:16,320 sure surely not now 430 00:15:20,689 --> 00:15:17,880 um but I'm digressing on that one sorry 431 00:15:23,090 --> 00:15:20,699 so it's interesting though yeah yeah 432 00:15:24,590 --> 00:15:23,100 yeah it's a whole different conversation 433 00:15:25,490 --> 00:15:24,600 rabbit hole isn't it with that kind of 434 00:15:27,949 --> 00:15:25,500 stuff 435 00:15:29,569 --> 00:15:27,959 um I just think it's fair that if we're 436 00:15:30,949 --> 00:15:29,579 going to come forward if someone's going 437 00:15:34,189 --> 00:15:30,959 to come forward and talk about Crash 438 00:15:36,170 --> 00:15:34,199 retrieval programs that that can excite 439 00:15:39,470 --> 00:15:36,180 people all they like but we have to hear 440 00:15:41,689 --> 00:15:39,480 something about why it's they think it's 441 00:15:44,329 --> 00:15:41,699 exotic why they think it's that other 442 00:15:46,670 --> 00:15:44,339 why they can tell us it's not Russian 443 00:15:49,490 --> 00:15:46,680 it's not Chinese it's not us it's not a 444 00:15:52,370 --> 00:15:49,500 known Powers technology because of this 445 00:15:54,230 --> 00:15:52,380 that that for me would have to be at 446 00:15:56,389 --> 00:15:54,240 least confirmed in the background but I 447 00:15:58,850 --> 00:15:56,399 would love for the love of God hear that 448 00:16:00,530 --> 00:15:58,860 in a public setting that you know we 449 00:16:02,810 --> 00:16:00,540 know it's that something we know it's 450 00:16:04,250 --> 00:16:02,820 not ours but then again is that I'm 451 00:16:07,990 --> 00:16:04,260 thinking out loud to your sorry Dan and 452 00:16:13,009 --> 00:16:10,850 yeah yeah is that then too much because 453 00:16:16,490 --> 00:16:13,019 you're then acknowledging you might as 454 00:16:19,189 --> 00:16:16,500 well say aliens that point you know 455 00:16:21,590 --> 00:16:19,199 because if you see it's definitely not 456 00:16:24,530 --> 00:16:21,600 in that kind of setting the mainstream 457 00:16:27,170 --> 00:16:24,540 media that maybe has got half an eye on 458 00:16:28,850 --> 00:16:27,180 the subject then fully turns our head 459 00:16:30,350 --> 00:16:28,860 and goes sorry it's definitely not 460 00:16:32,449 --> 00:16:30,360 theirs because why 461 00:16:34,910 --> 00:16:32,459 and then it becomes a bigger story as 462 00:16:37,069 --> 00:16:34,920 opposed to keeping it as you say koi 463 00:16:38,389 --> 00:16:37,079 keeping it under wraps aloof you know 464 00:16:40,670 --> 00:16:38,399 whatever kind of word you want to use 465 00:16:42,290 --> 00:16:40,680 around that so so yeah that's one for me 466 00:16:46,069 --> 00:16:42,300 that we can talk about Crash retrieval 467 00:16:49,490 --> 00:16:46,079 programs but I don't doubt that some if 468 00:16:51,650 --> 00:16:49,500 not many of these are about retrieving 469 00:16:55,129 --> 00:16:51,660 human Tech from adversarial technology 470 00:16:56,329 --> 00:16:55,139 you know God even us technology that is 471 00:16:58,790 --> 00:16:56,339 from 472 00:16:59,930 --> 00:16:58,800 private contractors in the US that are 473 00:17:01,610 --> 00:16:59,940 doing things the government might not 474 00:17:04,370 --> 00:17:01,620 even know about and 475 00:17:06,470 --> 00:17:04,380 when it crashes it's fair game you know 476 00:17:08,630 --> 00:17:06,480 becoming air these things happen 477 00:17:10,069 --> 00:17:08,640 um can you imagine it was the US 478 00:17:13,429 --> 00:17:10,079 catching their own technology and having 479 00:17:15,530 --> 00:17:13,439 it back engineer it yes yeah imagine 480 00:17:17,929 --> 00:17:15,540 like just just uh you know a department 481 00:17:19,610 --> 00:17:17,939 of say the CIA kind of seeing darpa's 482 00:17:21,949 --> 00:17:19,620 drone and not realizing because they 483 00:17:24,230 --> 00:17:21,959 don't talk to each other right uh yeah 484 00:17:26,449 --> 00:17:24,240 that's a that's a genuine worry and and 485 00:17:29,090 --> 00:17:26,459 technically I I would imagine that 486 00:17:29,950 --> 00:17:29,100 people like uh sorry countries like 487 00:17:33,530 --> 00:17:29,960 China 488 00:17:35,630 --> 00:17:33,540 probably kind of sent out a team to try 489 00:17:37,669 --> 00:17:35,640 and retrieve you know the balloons that 490 00:17:39,110 --> 00:17:37,679 were shot down if they were theirs 491 00:17:40,549 --> 00:17:39,120 um which would be a crash retrieval 492 00:17:42,650 --> 00:17:40,559 operation right 493 00:17:45,110 --> 00:17:42,660 um so so we have to be careful with yeah 494 00:17:47,029 --> 00:17:45,120 setting our expectations the bit the 495 00:17:48,650 --> 00:17:47,039 Tweet to me is that 496 00:17:52,549 --> 00:17:48,660 these people are in these classified 497 00:17:55,370 --> 00:17:52,559 programs and are talking about it when 498 00:17:57,350 --> 00:17:55,380 they're they were very Hefty kind of 499 00:17:59,630 --> 00:17:57,360 repercussions for doing things like that 500 00:18:02,690 --> 00:17:59,640 even even if you you know put aside all 501 00:18:05,330 --> 00:18:02,700 of these kind of maybe existent 502 00:18:07,610 --> 00:18:05,340 crazy classification levels 503 00:18:08,810 --> 00:18:07,620 um there's still a process for for going 504 00:18:09,770 --> 00:18:08,820 through and discussing classified 505 00:18:12,070 --> 00:18:09,780 information 506 00:18:18,350 --> 00:18:12,080 um in the legislation just passed we had 507 00:18:20,690 --> 00:18:18,360 uh Arrow was directed to uh set up uh uh 508 00:18:22,909 --> 00:18:20,700 kind of a secure compartment so people 509 00:18:25,070 --> 00:18:22,919 could send in classified information 510 00:18:27,049 --> 00:18:25,080 about Legacy programs exactly what we're 511 00:18:29,870 --> 00:18:27,059 talking about but that's not set up yet 512 00:18:32,029 --> 00:18:29,880 so comments like they'll take you into 513 00:18:34,430 --> 00:18:32,039 the lab and they're talking about it 514 00:18:35,930 --> 00:18:34,440 kind of you know what metal gear solid 515 00:18:38,210 --> 00:18:35,940 when the little exclamation mark comes 516 00:18:39,830 --> 00:18:38,220 above the guy's heads that's what my 517 00:18:41,690 --> 00:18:39,840 head does when I hear things like that 518 00:18:44,270 --> 00:18:41,700 because how how are these people talking 519 00:18:46,490 --> 00:18:44,280 about this stuff I don't understand 520 00:18:47,930 --> 00:18:46,500 but that's also some of the fun stuff to 521 00:18:50,930 --> 00:18:47,940 speculate and talk about but like you 522 00:18:52,909 --> 00:18:50,940 say it it's a throwaway comment and 523 00:18:56,210 --> 00:18:52,919 listen I I even commented last night on 524 00:18:57,830 --> 00:18:56,220 Twitter uh I love hearing James Fox talk 525 00:18:59,630 --> 00:18:57,840 um he's one of my top people to speak to 526 00:19:02,210 --> 00:18:59,640 and just hear talk about the subject 527 00:19:04,970 --> 00:19:02,220 because he still comes across as someone 528 00:19:07,190 --> 00:19:04,980 who hasn't rehearsed what he said he's 529 00:19:09,350 --> 00:19:07,200 not saying the same comments over and 530 00:19:12,230 --> 00:19:09,360 over and over it's he really wants to 531 00:19:13,970 --> 00:19:12,240 spill the beans but he's he's excited 532 00:19:15,529 --> 00:19:13,980 and a fan of the subject and I think 533 00:19:17,029 --> 00:19:15,539 that comes across when he talks and in 534 00:19:18,890 --> 00:19:17,039 his work as well so 535 00:19:20,750 --> 00:19:18,900 um yeah thanks to to James Frick and I 536 00:19:22,610 --> 00:19:20,760 share in those comments as well but Dan 537 00:19:24,350 --> 00:19:22,620 just to go back to what you said at the 538 00:19:26,390 --> 00:19:24,360 start you don't think we're going to get 539 00:19:28,010 --> 00:19:26,400 hearings this April given time scales 540 00:19:29,690 --> 00:19:28,020 and whatnot do you think we're still 541 00:19:30,789 --> 00:19:29,700 going to get them before the summer or 542 00:19:33,350 --> 00:19:30,799 by the summer 543 00:19:35,330 --> 00:19:33,360 I'd say probably around the summer you 544 00:19:36,950 --> 00:19:35,340 know this month seems to be all the air 545 00:19:38,750 --> 00:19:36,960 in the media is now taken up with uh 546 00:19:40,190 --> 00:19:38,760 Donald Trump being kind of arrested and 547 00:19:42,470 --> 00:19:40,200 everything that's going on there you 548 00:19:45,529 --> 00:19:42,480 know what comes of it I I have no idea 549 00:19:47,390 --> 00:19:45,539 it's again that kind of balance between 550 00:19:49,250 --> 00:19:47,400 something actually happening and a bit 551 00:19:50,029 --> 00:19:49,260 of a dog and pony show for me yeah you 552 00:19:51,710 --> 00:19:50,039 know 553 00:19:53,450 --> 00:19:51,720 um but I feel like that's just going to 554 00:19:55,310 --> 00:19:53,460 take up all the kind of mind share and 555 00:19:57,529 --> 00:19:55,320 discussion now this month 556 00:19:59,390 --> 00:19:57,539 um and yeah so it might be closer to 557 00:20:00,950 --> 00:19:59,400 Summer that we kind of see these 558 00:20:03,230 --> 00:20:00,960 hearings 559 00:20:05,090 --> 00:20:03,240 can you imagine 560 00:20:07,130 --> 00:20:05,100 anyway yeah I can imagine Trump in the 561 00:20:09,110 --> 00:20:07,140 in whatever it is his indictment plays a 562 00:20:11,409 --> 00:20:09,120 UFO card somewhere that could always you 563 00:20:15,409 --> 00:20:11,419 know I wouldn't get past the Dolphins 564 00:20:17,270 --> 00:20:15,419 yeah yeah yeah I mean of all the people 565 00:20:18,590 --> 00:20:17,280 he would be one of the top top 566 00:20:20,029 --> 00:20:18,600 candidates for that kind of thing along 567 00:20:23,450 --> 00:20:20,039 with Elon Musk 568 00:20:24,830 --> 00:20:23,460 um but hey ho let's not get political 569 00:20:27,110 --> 00:20:24,840 knock knock 570 00:20:29,090 --> 00:20:27,120 who's there Tom Delong knocking on 571 00:20:30,650 --> 00:20:29,100 doorstand this is what he did back in 572 00:20:32,330 --> 00:20:30,660 the day uh before two of the Stars 573 00:20:35,510 --> 00:20:32,340 Academy and Twitter Stars Academy 574 00:20:37,070 --> 00:20:35,520 recently had their shareholder call now 575 00:20:38,870 --> 00:20:37,080 actually I'm going to connect myself and 576 00:20:40,789 --> 00:20:38,880 you'd be the first person to do it is it 577 00:20:43,029 --> 00:20:40,799 still to the Stars Academy 578 00:20:45,770 --> 00:20:43,039 so it's to the stars 579 00:20:47,930 --> 00:20:45,780 and I actually noted that in my notes so 580 00:20:50,029 --> 00:20:47,940 until yesterday also would verse that 581 00:20:52,310 --> 00:20:50,039 question so okay that's fine because 582 00:20:54,669 --> 00:20:52,320 there was two stars to the Stars Academy 583 00:20:58,010 --> 00:20:54,679 two stars Academy of Arts and Science 584 00:21:00,650 --> 00:20:58,020 ttsa I mean everything has many acronyms 585 00:21:04,250 --> 00:21:00,660 as Arrow UAP task force you know aim 586 00:21:07,310 --> 00:21:04,260 song so it's just a thing the way that 587 00:21:09,350 --> 00:21:07,320 um Jim I was gonna say Steve semivan 588 00:21:12,710 --> 00:21:09,360 then James Sammy van 589 00:21:17,150 --> 00:21:15,470 um spoke about the the UFO work is that 590 00:21:19,370 --> 00:21:17,160 they call themselves to the stars but 591 00:21:21,169 --> 00:21:19,380 that's their public benefit kind of side 592 00:21:22,669 --> 00:21:21,179 of things so they're not looking to make 593 00:21:24,289 --> 00:21:22,679 a profit with the UFO work they're just 594 00:21:25,430 --> 00:21:24,299 looking to kind of get get the word out 595 00:21:26,930 --> 00:21:25,440 more 596 00:21:29,149 --> 00:21:26,940 um so you're a shareholder into the 597 00:21:31,370 --> 00:21:29,159 stars um it was nothing massive and just 598 00:21:33,169 --> 00:21:31,380 for disclaimers folks Dan you put that 599 00:21:34,130 --> 00:21:33,179 money in long before I met you and I 600 00:21:36,830 --> 00:21:34,140 think you said to me it was something 601 00:21:38,710 --> 00:21:36,840 like 40 or 50k that you put in just a 602 00:21:42,049 --> 00:21:38,720 small amount yeah 603 00:21:44,570 --> 00:21:42,059 I think it was like about 320 pounds 604 00:21:46,630 --> 00:21:44,580 English yeah 605 00:21:48,649 --> 00:21:46,640 um and so yeah 606 00:21:51,169 --> 00:21:48,659 what were the kind of highlights from 607 00:21:52,909 --> 00:21:51,179 the call so the main thing was just uh 608 00:21:54,950 --> 00:21:52,919 asking shareholders to vote on the board 609 00:21:56,750 --> 00:21:54,960 members uh we had to vote on whether we 610 00:21:58,909 --> 00:21:56,760 wanted Tom to stay where he was Jim to 611 00:22:00,890 --> 00:21:58,919 stay where he was and uh Chris Miser as 612 00:22:03,529 --> 00:22:00,900 well as well as Stan Sprite stamp spray 613 00:22:06,529 --> 00:22:03,539 is interesting because he runs cartel 614 00:22:09,710 --> 00:22:06,539 entertainment and they are the guys that 615 00:22:12,230 --> 00:22:09,720 help kind of fund and get uh Monsters of 616 00:22:13,850 --> 00:22:12,240 California off the ground so it's great 617 00:22:15,529 --> 00:22:13,860 that he's on the board because you know 618 00:22:17,630 --> 00:22:15,539 that's just production know-how and and 619 00:22:19,250 --> 00:22:17,640 that just comes with experience 620 00:22:20,990 --> 00:22:19,260 um and on that was there any update on 621 00:22:22,190 --> 00:22:21,000 monster in California because I know 622 00:22:23,630 --> 00:22:22,200 you've told me but I think for the 623 00:22:25,610 --> 00:22:23,640 listeners I'd like some of them would 624 00:22:27,649 --> 00:22:25,620 like to know because I am very excited 625 00:22:30,049 --> 00:22:27,659 for this I know you are because this is 626 00:22:31,909 --> 00:22:30,059 Tom delong's one of his passion projects 627 00:22:34,250 --> 00:22:31,919 it's a movie where I think we're 628 00:22:37,250 --> 00:22:34,260 expecting to see a lot of what Tom 629 00:22:40,010 --> 00:22:37,260 Delong thinks about the UFO topic cut 630 00:22:41,810 --> 00:22:40,020 forward in the format of a movie 631 00:22:43,549 --> 00:22:41,820 um yeah I I would agree with you yeah 632 00:22:46,250 --> 00:22:43,559 you know there's going to be you know 633 00:22:47,630 --> 00:22:46,260 some probably crude jokes and things 634 00:22:50,990 --> 00:22:47,640 like that kind of thrown in but 635 00:22:52,370 --> 00:22:51,000 fantastic license as well that's his 636 00:22:54,890 --> 00:22:52,380 declarations yeah 637 00:22:57,230 --> 00:22:54,900 um but yeah we're gonna get a few ideas 638 00:22:59,810 --> 00:22:57,240 as to what Tom has been told what he's 639 00:23:01,730 --> 00:22:59,820 been discussing you know especially for 640 00:23:03,289 --> 00:23:01,740 a general audience that doesn't do you 641 00:23:05,210 --> 00:23:03,299 know podcasts and say on social medias 642 00:23:07,010 --> 00:23:05,220 talking about UFOs it's going to be a 643 00:23:08,149 --> 00:23:07,020 really kind of casual Inn for a lot of 644 00:23:09,590 --> 00:23:08,159 ideas 645 00:23:11,390 --> 00:23:09,600 um kind of in the same way that nope was 646 00:23:12,770 --> 00:23:11,400 right like there was that one key idea 647 00:23:15,169 --> 00:23:12,780 that was a little different in there 648 00:23:17,390 --> 00:23:15,179 that uh spoilers for anyone that hasn't 649 00:23:19,310 --> 00:23:17,400 watched nope uh just that you know we're 650 00:23:20,930 --> 00:23:19,320 looking at extremophiles instead of kind 651 00:23:22,070 --> 00:23:20,940 of flying craft 652 00:23:23,690 --> 00:23:22,080 um and it just makes you think a little 653 00:23:25,370 --> 00:23:23,700 bit differently about the phenomena so 654 00:23:27,230 --> 00:23:25,380 I'm hoping that monsters will will 655 00:23:29,270 --> 00:23:27,240 contain a lot of that but it's got a 656 00:23:30,710 --> 00:23:29,280 distribution deal and basically they're 657 00:23:32,450 --> 00:23:30,720 working it out 658 00:23:34,789 --> 00:23:32,460 um so I would imagine we're going to see 659 00:23:37,370 --> 00:23:34,799 that sooner rather than later Tom was 660 00:23:38,870 --> 00:23:37,380 real excited about her on the call so uh 661 00:23:39,950 --> 00:23:38,880 yeah fingers crossed that doesn't take 662 00:23:42,590 --> 00:23:39,960 too long they mentioned kind of 663 00:23:43,970 --> 00:23:42,600 merchandise being designed and things so 664 00:23:45,350 --> 00:23:43,980 they're probably just getting all their 665 00:23:46,970 --> 00:23:45,360 ducks in a row before kind of getting 666 00:23:48,950 --> 00:23:46,980 that out 667 00:23:52,070 --> 00:23:48,960 um something interesting that was spoken 668 00:23:54,649 --> 00:23:52,080 about was uh so they mentioned there's 669 00:23:56,330 --> 00:23:54,659 19 projects in the works all of which 670 00:23:57,710 --> 00:23:56,340 are kind of far enough along in 671 00:23:59,750 --> 00:23:57,720 development that they don't need Thomas 672 00:24:01,970 --> 00:23:59,760 personal time now so he's able to go off 673 00:24:04,970 --> 00:24:01,980 with blank and do his thing 674 00:24:08,029 --> 00:24:04,980 um but amongst those projects is a 675 00:24:10,610 --> 00:24:08,039 project about how put offs work and his 676 00:24:12,409 --> 00:24:10,620 past with remote viewing and the UFO 677 00:24:14,690 --> 00:24:12,419 subject and apparently there's a lot of 678 00:24:17,270 --> 00:24:14,700 stuff that we haven't heard from from 679 00:24:19,310 --> 00:24:17,280 Hal's background and it'll be contained 680 00:24:21,110 --> 00:24:19,320 in this kind of film which sounds 681 00:24:23,510 --> 00:24:21,120 interesting right 682 00:24:26,090 --> 00:24:23,520 um and then we had an update on the the 683 00:24:29,029 --> 00:24:26,100 krata from Jim semiban the crowded for 684 00:24:31,250 --> 00:24:29,039 those that aren't familiar is 685 00:24:34,370 --> 00:24:31,260 to the Stars Academy of Arts and 686 00:24:36,049 --> 00:24:34,380 Sciences at Riemann uh with the US Army 687 00:24:39,110 --> 00:24:36,059 to give them a bit of material which was 688 00:24:41,149 --> 00:24:39,120 the abysmouth bit from a Arts Parts or 689 00:24:41,870 --> 00:24:41,159 Linda montejo 690 00:24:44,230 --> 00:24:41,880 um 691 00:24:46,430 --> 00:24:44,240 and let them study it 692 00:24:47,870 --> 00:24:46,440 can I just put that in layman's terms 693 00:24:48,830 --> 00:24:47,880 even for people like myself who are 694 00:24:51,110 --> 00:24:48,840 idiots 695 00:24:54,409 --> 00:24:51,120 um that was a bit of supported UFO 696 00:24:55,669 --> 00:24:54,419 debris oh sure Tom yeah Tom's along bot 697 00:24:57,049 --> 00:24:55,679 because what you said was perfectly 698 00:24:59,750 --> 00:24:57,059 right but even I would have been like 699 00:25:01,250 --> 00:24:59,760 what if I'm not too familiar with it but 700 00:25:02,750 --> 00:25:01,260 yeah I suppose a better view if or 701 00:25:04,610 --> 00:25:02,760 Deputy wasn't it that they purchased 702 00:25:06,470 --> 00:25:04,620 from Linda malt now 703 00:25:09,350 --> 00:25:06,480 um exactly they've got the deal but yeah 704 00:25:11,990 --> 00:25:09,360 sorry carry on uh yeah so that's exactly 705 00:25:14,090 --> 00:25:12,000 the deal um apparently Santa Bell back 706 00:25:16,010 --> 00:25:14,100 in the day and kind of passed down 707 00:25:18,350 --> 00:25:16,020 um so if that's finally being studied 708 00:25:20,690 --> 00:25:18,360 apparently that program's still going 709 00:25:22,909 --> 00:25:20,700 but when they kind of spoke about it 710 00:25:26,510 --> 00:25:22,919 they said it was expanding to some 711 00:25:29,450 --> 00:25:26,520 National Labs as well as involving and 712 00:25:31,909 --> 00:25:29,460 and I'm I'm kind of paraphrasing here 713 00:25:36,409 --> 00:25:31,919 but they didn't say the exact terms so 714 00:25:40,370 --> 00:25:36,419 uh they said the established UAP study 715 00:25:42,590 --> 00:25:40,380 program in the USA which to me is Arrow 716 00:25:44,630 --> 00:25:42,600 um but they didn't say the name so I've 717 00:25:46,909 --> 00:25:44,640 got to kind of go okay you know I can't 718 00:25:48,230 --> 00:25:46,919 say there's definitely that but it's 719 00:25:50,810 --> 00:25:48,240 interesting that Arrow would get 720 00:25:53,450 --> 00:25:50,820 involved in studying materials like this 721 00:25:55,070 --> 00:25:53,460 here's an interesting question that I've 722 00:26:00,230 --> 00:25:55,080 just thought of off the top of my head 723 00:26:04,730 --> 00:26:02,630 long pause for effect and I think the 724 00:26:07,610 --> 00:26:04,740 best way to put this 725 00:26:11,269 --> 00:26:07,620 I'm someone in possession of a piece of 726 00:26:13,970 --> 00:26:11,279 UFO debris like Tom DeLonge was okay and 727 00:26:14,870 --> 00:26:13,980 he gives us over to the US Army in an 728 00:26:17,330 --> 00:26:14,880 agreement 729 00:26:19,310 --> 00:26:17,340 yeah we're talking about an army which 730 00:26:21,370 --> 00:26:19,320 is part of a government which supposedly 731 00:26:25,549 --> 00:26:21,380 has had or has 732 00:26:27,529 --> 00:26:25,559 PCS or full intact craft 733 00:26:29,630 --> 00:26:27,539 what do you do when someone hands you 734 00:26:31,190 --> 00:26:29,640 what is what a pebble sized piece of 735 00:26:33,769 --> 00:26:31,200 debris because it's quite small isn't it 736 00:26:35,330 --> 00:26:33,779 it's not yeah they're about yeah and 737 00:26:38,090 --> 00:26:35,340 then you potentially have a crashed 738 00:26:41,269 --> 00:26:38,100 craft somewhere what 739 00:26:42,890 --> 00:26:41,279 you know what happens here because 740 00:26:44,630 --> 00:26:42,900 they have it or they don't and I'm not 741 00:26:46,669 --> 00:26:44,640 saying the US Army know about all that 742 00:26:49,190 --> 00:26:46,679 kind of stuff but 743 00:26:51,049 --> 00:26:49,200 see they don't have anything and it's 744 00:26:52,549 --> 00:26:51,059 how do you even begin to start to study 745 00:26:53,690 --> 00:26:52,559 that people like Gary Nolan I've done 746 00:26:55,430 --> 00:26:53,700 some brilliant interviews in the past 747 00:26:57,529 --> 00:26:55,440 about how you begin to study this stuff 748 00:26:59,450 --> 00:26:57,539 why it takes so long to do it you don't 749 00:27:02,570 --> 00:26:59,460 just run a test and go yep it's alien 750 00:27:04,610 --> 00:27:02,580 that's not how it works but 751 00:27:07,669 --> 00:27:04,620 it's such a small piece compared to what 752 00:27:09,230 --> 00:27:07,679 the rumors are that already exists in 753 00:27:11,090 --> 00:27:09,240 the hands of private contractors all 754 00:27:13,330 --> 00:27:11,100 that kind of thing as well so it's such 755 00:27:16,070 --> 00:27:13,340 a such a breadth of 756 00:27:17,690 --> 00:27:16,080 research there that here's a tiny bit 757 00:27:19,730 --> 00:27:17,700 let's spend a long time researching it 758 00:27:22,250 --> 00:27:19,740 and then we hear they've got crashed 759 00:27:24,409 --> 00:27:22,260 craft intact that they either can or 760 00:27:25,789 --> 00:27:24,419 can't work 761 00:27:27,010 --> 00:27:25,799 I don't even know what I'm trying to ask 762 00:27:29,890 --> 00:27:27,020 here it's 763 00:27:33,529 --> 00:27:29,900 I guess 764 00:27:36,169 --> 00:27:33,539 right like yeah that again is that 765 00:27:37,610 --> 00:27:36,179 gamesmanship that kind of pretending 766 00:27:41,330 --> 00:27:37,620 um and I think this is why we're getting 767 00:27:43,490 --> 00:27:41,340 that kind of psyop talk because we think 768 00:27:45,590 --> 00:27:43,500 they have a crash craft and now they're 769 00:27:47,810 --> 00:27:45,600 pretending or they're studying kind of 770 00:27:49,730 --> 00:27:47,820 this chunk that they got from you know a 771 00:27:52,730 --> 00:27:49,740 radio host who passed it to a YouTube 772 00:27:54,830 --> 00:27:52,740 host who passed it to a rock star yeah 773 00:27:56,090 --> 00:27:54,840 um I think you're exactly right and it 774 00:27:58,130 --> 00:27:56,100 sounds awful when you say it like that 775 00:27:59,769 --> 00:27:58,140 the radio almost into the YouTube poster 776 00:28:01,610 --> 00:27:59,779 you give it to the rock star yeah okay 777 00:28:04,190 --> 00:28:01,620 that's kind of what we're looking at 778 00:28:06,110 --> 00:28:04,200 right like realistically you know it 779 00:28:08,210 --> 00:28:06,120 kind of diminishes it a little bit but 780 00:28:09,350 --> 00:28:08,220 essentially that's what it is and and 781 00:28:10,789 --> 00:28:09,360 they've still gotten to the point with 782 00:28:13,850 --> 00:28:10,799 the armies taking it and they're testing 783 00:28:15,649 --> 00:28:13,860 it so you know this work is being done 784 00:28:17,390 --> 00:28:15,659 um even if you know that line of custody 785 00:28:18,769 --> 00:28:17,400 isn't you know anyone's kind of favorite 786 00:28:20,690 --> 00:28:18,779 thing 787 00:28:21,950 --> 00:28:20,700 um I would love to think just on that I 788 00:28:23,029 --> 00:28:21,960 would love to think I've got in my head 789 00:28:24,950 --> 00:28:23,039 now that they've got that little bit 790 00:28:26,570 --> 00:28:24,960 that's chipped off and that someone's 791 00:28:28,610 --> 00:28:26,580 given it to some scientist who basically 792 00:28:30,890 --> 00:28:28,620 walks up to a full craft then the lab 793 00:28:32,690 --> 00:28:30,900 and goes ah and places it on a chipped 794 00:28:34,909 --> 00:28:32,700 piece of The Craft and goes yeah came 795 00:28:36,830 --> 00:28:34,919 off this one yeah do you think the craft 796 00:28:38,930 --> 00:28:36,840 came back alive once they slide maybe 797 00:28:41,149 --> 00:28:38,940 just in my head as you said that it kind 798 00:28:44,810 --> 00:28:41,159 of glowed out yeah like Independence Day 799 00:28:46,730 --> 00:28:44,820 when it goes up yeah ah that was the BET 800 00:28:47,930 --> 00:28:46,740 yeah oh like Superman's crystals you 801 00:28:50,930 --> 00:28:47,940 know when they put the crystal in the 802 00:28:52,970 --> 00:28:50,940 crystal thing yeah potentially 803 00:28:55,610 --> 00:28:52,980 um I mean that would be cool right like 804 00:28:57,289 --> 00:28:55,620 whatever happens at some point and I 805 00:29:00,409 --> 00:28:57,299 doubt we'll ever see it but I I would 806 00:29:02,870 --> 00:29:00,419 love kind of the inside story on this 807 00:29:05,149 --> 00:29:02,880 kind of a whole series of events you 808 00:29:07,070 --> 00:29:05,159 know if it is a sign up tell us when 809 00:29:09,890 --> 00:29:07,080 you're finished you know please like it 810 00:29:11,570 --> 00:29:09,900 yeah yeah let us know once it's done and 811 00:29:12,830 --> 00:29:11,580 no longer interesting that look it was 812 00:29:15,289 --> 00:29:12,840 but here's what happened because that 813 00:29:17,029 --> 00:29:15,299 would be a cool story and advertise the 814 00:29:19,130 --> 00:29:17,039 sequel when it's happening just so just 815 00:29:21,169 --> 00:29:19,140 so we can get excited yeah but yeah 816 00:29:23,210 --> 00:29:21,179 that's interesting on the piece and I 817 00:29:25,610 --> 00:29:23,220 don't think we'll ever hear any more 818 00:29:27,230 --> 00:29:25,620 about that unless we got a proper form 819 00:29:28,490 --> 00:29:27,240 of disclosure where they would come out 820 00:29:30,350 --> 00:29:28,500 and see yeah we've got a better one of 821 00:29:32,210 --> 00:29:30,360 those craft don't worry you know Jim and 822 00:29:34,490 --> 00:29:32,220 Jimmy did say during the discussion that 823 00:29:36,590 --> 00:29:34,500 any results that are discussed have to 824 00:29:39,710 --> 00:29:36,600 be agreed upon by every single party 825 00:29:43,010 --> 00:29:39,720 involved so that's the labs that uh the 826 00:29:46,970 --> 00:29:43,020 US Army that's probably Arrow now plus 827 00:29:49,490 --> 00:29:46,980 ttsa so it's not just up to uh sorry TTS 828 00:29:51,470 --> 00:29:49,500 uh it's not just up to the Stars to kind 829 00:29:53,389 --> 00:29:51,480 of spill these beans it needs to be done 830 00:29:54,889 --> 00:29:53,399 in a in a proper professional way 831 00:29:57,409 --> 00:29:54,899 according to the contract that was 832 00:29:59,510 --> 00:29:57,419 agreed upon and not timed along halfway 833 00:30:01,250 --> 00:29:59,520 through a world tour playing Amsterdam 834 00:30:02,330 --> 00:30:01,260 started night in a row and just goes you 835 00:30:04,610 --> 00:30:02,340 know what we just had some great news 836 00:30:06,110 --> 00:30:04,620 today folks uh yep we found out this 837 00:30:08,210 --> 00:30:06,120 piece of craft is alien technology 838 00:30:10,909 --> 00:30:08,220 here's aliens exist take off your pants 839 00:30:12,470 --> 00:30:10,919 and then it goes in here yeah that would 840 00:30:14,330 --> 00:30:12,480 have been a toned along wouldn't it yeah 841 00:30:17,649 --> 00:30:14,340 it would yeah yeah I mean I wouldn't be 842 00:30:19,730 --> 00:30:17,659 opposed to that but you know yeah yeah 843 00:30:21,889 --> 00:30:19,740 at the Glasgow gig would be good 844 00:30:24,350 --> 00:30:21,899 everyone yeah 845 00:30:26,090 --> 00:30:24,360 um any anything more from the call 846 00:30:27,289 --> 00:30:26,100 I'm just trying to think off the top of 847 00:30:29,510 --> 00:30:27,299 my head 848 00:30:32,029 --> 00:30:29,520 I don't think so all the board members 849 00:30:34,850 --> 00:30:32,039 will re kind of you know voted back in 850 00:30:37,070 --> 00:30:34,860 so that's going to carry on 851 00:30:38,570 --> 00:30:37,080 um and yeah they were all the things 852 00:30:40,669 --> 00:30:38,580 touched on I was hoping for a q a 853 00:30:41,870 --> 00:30:40,679 session but that didn't happen 854 00:30:43,549 --> 00:30:41,880 um I had a bunch of questions in 855 00:30:45,409 --> 00:30:43,559 including hey Tom do you want to come on 856 00:30:46,850 --> 00:30:45,419 that UFO podcast 857 00:30:49,970 --> 00:30:46,860 um but 858 00:30:52,610 --> 00:30:49,980 I I think there was a another event the 859 00:30:55,070 --> 00:30:52,620 same day for people who had invested 860 00:30:56,690 --> 00:30:55,080 that 40 50k or where they got those kind 861 00:30:58,610 --> 00:30:56,700 of private meetings and Q and A's and 862 00:31:00,350 --> 00:30:58,620 stuff so if anyone's listening who wants 863 00:31:02,810 --> 00:31:00,360 to be a part of that get give this a 864 00:31:04,730 --> 00:31:02,820 shout yeah apparently the Q a happened 865 00:31:08,510 --> 00:31:04,740 an hour later 866 00:31:10,970 --> 00:31:08,520 uh yes the uh yeah but uh the pierced 867 00:31:12,529 --> 00:31:10,980 animal wasn't on it so yeah there you go 868 00:31:14,210 --> 00:31:12,539 um I don't know why that was maybe it 869 00:31:15,529 --> 00:31:14,220 was for the big investors you know yeah 870 00:31:17,450 --> 00:31:15,539 hey ho 871 00:31:19,130 --> 00:31:17,460 um lesson a couple of things just to 872 00:31:20,810 --> 00:31:19,140 finish off I stand before I ask you can 873 00:31:23,930 --> 00:31:20,820 I tell us what's on your radar this 874 00:31:26,090 --> 00:31:23,940 month uh the alien signal article I know 875 00:31:28,610 --> 00:31:26,100 a lot of people commented on this online 876 00:31:30,889 --> 00:31:28,620 um that's got a ton of engagement on on 877 00:31:32,510 --> 00:31:30,899 the Twitter post I literally retweet it 878 00:31:33,529 --> 00:31:32,520 from the website of the independent 879 00:31:35,630 --> 00:31:33,539 right 880 00:31:37,490 --> 00:31:35,640 um my wife sent me on Twitter on 881 00:31:39,710 --> 00:31:37,500 WhatsApp saying I take it you've seen 882 00:31:41,210 --> 00:31:39,720 this and I was like oh interesting and 883 00:31:43,130 --> 00:31:41,220 put out on Twitter and it got a whole 884 00:31:45,110 --> 00:31:43,140 lot of Engagement more so than anything 885 00:31:47,090 --> 00:31:45,120 I've put out so there we go here's how 886 00:31:49,070 --> 00:31:47,100 these things happen thanks to my piano 887 00:31:50,990 --> 00:31:49,080 post with a bunch of puppies like I've 888 00:31:53,510 --> 00:31:51,000 done some great posts but that one keeps 889 00:31:55,730 --> 00:31:53,520 coming back yeah it's funny what takes 890 00:31:56,990 --> 00:31:55,740 off isn't it um it was about the click 891 00:31:59,210 --> 00:31:57,000 bait headline wasn't it basically 892 00:32:01,370 --> 00:31:59,220 alluding to an alien planet and we found 893 00:32:03,409 --> 00:32:01,380 a coherent signal from it 894 00:32:04,970 --> 00:32:03,419 um I I quite enjoy these articles but 895 00:32:07,010 --> 00:32:04,980 some people didn't like it as much 896 00:32:10,730 --> 00:32:07,020 because they think it's clickbaity and 897 00:32:12,950 --> 00:32:10,740 uh you know breaking news 2023 this is 898 00:32:16,310 --> 00:32:12,960 how with print media being all but dead 899 00:32:17,870 --> 00:32:16,320 this is how media organizations like the 900 00:32:19,970 --> 00:32:17,880 independent the guardian Daily Record 901 00:32:22,130 --> 00:32:19,980 any of those newspapers it's how they 902 00:32:24,350 --> 00:32:22,140 survive New York Post New York Times all 903 00:32:26,090 --> 00:32:24,360 these types of organizations now rely on 904 00:32:28,370 --> 00:32:26,100 people clicking on articles reading a 905 00:32:30,049 --> 00:32:28,380 headline and the ads that pop up on 906 00:32:31,669 --> 00:32:30,059 those websites that's that's how that's 907 00:32:34,070 --> 00:32:31,679 how media survives these days unless you 908 00:32:36,169 --> 00:32:34,080 subscribe to New York Times Etc to 909 00:32:38,750 --> 00:32:36,179 reading can I keep them going 910 00:32:41,450 --> 00:32:38,760 um but for me I don't expect to see an 911 00:32:44,149 --> 00:32:41,460 article like that telling me that 912 00:32:45,889 --> 00:32:44,159 alien life has been discovered but I 913 00:32:47,510 --> 00:32:45,899 like to think when I click on those that 914 00:32:49,130 --> 00:32:47,520 maybe it leads to something I think it's 915 00:32:50,810 --> 00:32:49,140 a nice what if stand we talk about those 916 00:32:52,490 --> 00:32:50,820 don't we know that oh yeah but what if 917 00:32:55,909 --> 00:32:52,500 it led to this and for me it's like uh 918 00:32:57,649 --> 00:32:55,919 uh three body problem type you know some 919 00:32:59,330 --> 00:32:57,659 things out there we've picked up a 920 00:33:01,610 --> 00:32:59,340 signal and does it get followed up on 921 00:33:03,230 --> 00:33:01,620 because let's be fair almost every one 922 00:33:04,789 --> 00:33:03,240 of these articles that's ever came out 923 00:33:05,630 --> 00:33:04,799 any one of these stories whether it's 924 00:33:12,830 --> 00:33:05,640 the 925 00:33:15,110 --> 00:33:12,840 phosphine yeah yeah it almost is always 926 00:33:16,789 --> 00:33:15,120 something quite mundane relatively 927 00:33:18,649 --> 00:33:16,799 mundane not to a scientist they would 928 00:33:20,090 --> 00:33:18,659 find it really interesting but it's it's 929 00:33:21,830 --> 00:33:20,100 not what we think 930 00:33:23,690 --> 00:33:21,840 um so I was really aware it wasn't going 931 00:33:25,370 --> 00:33:23,700 to be alien life wondering if there's a 932 00:33:28,190 --> 00:33:25,380 scientist out there who's like my 933 00:33:31,210 --> 00:33:28,200 favorite material it's phosphate yeah oh 934 00:33:33,529 --> 00:33:31,220 God phosphine phosphine only fans yeah 935 00:33:36,470 --> 00:33:33,539 only phosphine 936 00:33:38,389 --> 00:33:36,480 um but yeah the that's that's yeah those 937 00:33:40,549 --> 00:33:38,399 articles for me it's just a nice what if 938 00:33:42,830 --> 00:33:40,559 I don't expect to ever see the alien 939 00:33:45,409 --> 00:33:42,840 life confirmed and article click here to 940 00:33:47,570 --> 00:33:45,419 read more okay but 941 00:33:50,269 --> 00:33:47,580 maybe maybe one of these things one day 942 00:33:52,250 --> 00:33:50,279 gives something for an asset or a James 943 00:33:54,769 --> 00:33:52,260 Webb to to dig their teeth into and 944 00:33:58,370 --> 00:33:54,779 follow up on and a lot of these studies 945 00:33:59,990 --> 00:33:58,380 tend to not be recent they've been going 946 00:34:02,389 --> 00:34:00,000 on for a while and this is just the 947 00:34:04,430 --> 00:34:02,399 results being released you know so it's 948 00:34:05,870 --> 00:34:04,440 not exactly oh last night we picked up a 949 00:34:08,930 --> 00:34:05,880 signal what of the world's type style 950 00:34:10,510 --> 00:34:08,940 and then it comes out um yeah you like 951 00:34:13,010 --> 00:34:10,520 those articles too don't you in terms of 952 00:34:16,490 --> 00:34:13,020 the potential the what if the science 953 00:34:17,750 --> 00:34:16,500 behind it yeah in the universe and I 954 00:34:19,250 --> 00:34:17,760 think you're exactly right to kind of 955 00:34:20,930 --> 00:34:19,260 comment on that headline as well you 956 00:34:22,609 --> 00:34:20,940 know the only reason someone's going to 957 00:34:24,649 --> 00:34:22,619 be annoyed with that article is if they 958 00:34:27,530 --> 00:34:24,659 read it think that they actually may 959 00:34:28,669 --> 00:34:27,540 know we found aliens and then uh they 960 00:34:30,770 --> 00:34:28,679 actually read the article and find out 961 00:34:32,389 --> 00:34:30,780 that wasn't the case 962 00:34:34,669 --> 00:34:32,399 um so yeah just pinch assault when 963 00:34:36,710 --> 00:34:34,679 people are reading kind of news media uh 964 00:34:38,389 --> 00:34:36,720 you know those headlines are designed to 965 00:34:40,310 --> 00:34:38,399 get you to click 966 00:34:42,349 --> 00:34:40,320 um with the termavian planet what planet 967 00:34:43,190 --> 00:34:42,359 it's like from Earth is an alien you 968 00:34:44,810 --> 00:34:43,200 know 969 00:34:46,790 --> 00:34:44,820 um so keep those expectations in check 970 00:34:51,849 --> 00:34:46,800 like you you say it'll come from a 971 00:34:53,690 --> 00:34:51,859 bigger place but the the idea that 972 00:34:55,790 --> 00:34:53,700 electromagnetic fields can kind of 973 00:34:56,690 --> 00:34:55,800 produce radio signals when interacting 974 00:34:59,870 --> 00:34:56,700 with 975 00:35:02,450 --> 00:34:59,880 things like Suns uh stars in their solar 976 00:35:04,250 --> 00:35:02,460 systems uh it's kind of amazing you know 977 00:35:06,829 --> 00:35:04,260 34 years ago that was a almost 978 00:35:10,069 --> 00:35:06,839 revolutionary idea and and now we know 979 00:35:12,829 --> 00:35:10,079 that what we think we know that a planet 980 00:35:14,569 --> 00:35:12,839 needs an electromagnetic field to be 981 00:35:17,030 --> 00:35:14,579 able to have a life that it's kind of 982 00:35:18,890 --> 00:35:17,040 one of the key ingredients so it's 983 00:35:21,470 --> 00:35:18,900 amazing that we're able to kind of 984 00:35:23,990 --> 00:35:21,480 figure out that fingerprint and and 985 00:35:25,430 --> 00:35:24,000 identify that from so so far away I can 986 00:35:27,349 --> 00:35:25,440 barely see to the end of the street you 987 00:35:30,109 --> 00:35:27,359 know any verses and these guys are 988 00:35:32,390 --> 00:35:30,119 seeing a bajillion miles and detecting 989 00:35:34,849 --> 00:35:32,400 these invisible Fields it's really 990 00:35:36,349 --> 00:35:34,859 incredible and that's exactly the kind 991 00:35:38,569 --> 00:35:36,359 of work that's going to lead to us 992 00:35:42,470 --> 00:35:38,579 identifying candidates to study further 993 00:35:44,930 --> 00:35:42,480 there was a little while back 994 00:35:46,490 --> 00:35:44,940 I think it was Jimmy church had Linda 995 00:35:47,990 --> 00:35:46,500 moltenhall on the show and they were 996 00:35:50,450 --> 00:35:48,000 talking about the James Webb Telescope 997 00:35:53,329 --> 00:35:50,460 finding uh life and that they'd 998 00:35:55,730 --> 00:35:53,339 confirmed it and things like that and 999 00:35:58,970 --> 00:35:55,740 your comment about how long this work 1000 00:36:01,069 --> 00:35:58,980 takes uh to be released you know to be 1001 00:36:03,530 --> 00:36:01,079 analyzed and released kind of speaks to 1002 00:36:04,970 --> 00:36:03,540 when you hear things like that why you 1003 00:36:06,829 --> 00:36:04,980 should take them with such a Pinter so 1004 00:36:08,690 --> 00:36:06,839 because this work takes a long time 1005 00:36:11,510 --> 00:36:08,700 because they they wouldn't present it 1006 00:36:14,150 --> 00:36:11,520 you know on Fade to Black as opposed to 1007 00:36:16,609 --> 00:36:14,160 a a you know European Space Agency a 1008 00:36:18,470 --> 00:36:16,619 massive joint announcement type thing uh 1009 00:36:20,569 --> 00:36:18,480 so yeah I you're totally right I love 1010 00:36:22,250 --> 00:36:20,579 those articles but unfortunately it 1011 00:36:24,530 --> 00:36:22,260 wasn't aliens but it was a baby step 1012 00:36:26,450 --> 00:36:24,540 towards being able to identify the kinds 1013 00:36:27,170 --> 00:36:26,460 of planets that can Harbor everything in 1014 00:36:33,130 --> 00:36:27,180 life 1015 00:36:37,609 --> 00:36:35,810 that and like you also pointed out I 1016 00:36:39,230 --> 00:36:37,619 think to someone online that it's funny 1017 00:36:42,290 --> 00:36:39,240 how it says alien planet and you're like 1018 00:36:44,210 --> 00:36:42,300 well yeah they're all alien planets 1019 00:36:47,089 --> 00:36:44,220 they're all not earth 1020 00:36:49,010 --> 00:36:47,099 um oh unless twist it was Earth and yeah 1021 00:36:50,390 --> 00:36:49,020 we're looking at Earth in the future or 1022 00:36:52,250 --> 00:36:50,400 past here we go 1023 00:36:54,650 --> 00:36:52,260 um and very quickly then just to touch 1024 00:36:56,450 --> 00:36:54,660 on that well we're talking about the the 1025 00:36:58,970 --> 00:36:56,460 universe and Science and all that kind 1026 00:37:01,370 --> 00:36:58,980 of stuff the first crudeman mission is 1027 00:37:03,770 --> 00:37:01,380 due to take place next year uh first 1028 00:37:05,569 --> 00:37:03,780 time in over 50 years and the crew is 1029 00:37:07,730 --> 00:37:05,579 Commander Reed Wiseman pilot Victor 1030 00:37:10,310 --> 00:37:07,740 Glover Mission specialist one Christina 1031 00:37:12,530 --> 00:37:10,320 hammock Koch sorry if I've got that 1032 00:37:14,089 --> 00:37:12,540 wrong and Mission specialist too Jeremy 1033 00:37:17,150 --> 00:37:14,099 Hansen that's a crew who are going to 1034 00:37:20,390 --> 00:37:17,160 lead up the Artemis Mission I believe 1035 00:37:22,490 --> 00:37:20,400 uh Ben Hansen could be well up for that 1036 00:37:24,589 --> 00:37:22,500 um Jeremy Hansen as Jeremy corbellan Ben 1037 00:37:26,450 --> 00:37:24,599 Hansen's adopted love child 1038 00:37:27,950 --> 00:37:26,460 um and uh yeah that's the crew who's 1039 00:37:31,310 --> 00:37:27,960 going to the Moon excited about that 1040 00:37:33,290 --> 00:37:31,320 first time in over 50 years very excited 1041 00:37:34,609 --> 00:37:33,300 um the the whole thing that they're 1042 00:37:36,589 --> 00:37:34,619 doing is kind of setting up a station 1043 00:37:39,770 --> 00:37:36,599 for further missions 1044 00:37:41,990 --> 00:37:39,780 um so again it's one of those little 1045 00:37:44,810 --> 00:37:42,000 baby steps to when when you kind of read 1046 00:37:46,370 --> 00:37:44,820 uh a Sci-Fi book or watch a movie and 1047 00:37:47,930 --> 00:37:46,380 we're out in space kind of traveling 1048 00:37:49,790 --> 00:37:47,940 around and we've got all these 1049 00:37:51,770 --> 00:37:49,800 established colonies and ring worlds and 1050 00:37:53,510 --> 00:37:51,780 you know we live on asteroids this is 1051 00:37:55,310 --> 00:37:53,520 where that starts 1052 00:37:57,349 --> 00:37:55,320 um so we kind of need that kind of 1053 00:37:59,569 --> 00:37:57,359 launch pad in space to kind of go from 1054 00:38:01,069 --> 00:37:59,579 there and chances are the Mars missions 1055 00:38:02,990 --> 00:38:01,079 will go from there in the future and 1056 00:38:04,670 --> 00:38:03,000 things like that so it just gives us a 1057 00:38:07,609 --> 00:38:04,680 bit of a leg up in terms of not having 1058 00:38:09,829 --> 00:38:07,619 to to expand so much goddamn fuel 1059 00:38:11,750 --> 00:38:09,839 getting out of this gravity well uh we 1060 00:38:13,730 --> 00:38:11,760 can start from the vacuum instead of uh 1061 00:38:15,470 --> 00:38:13,740 you know the surface of Earth 1062 00:38:16,790 --> 00:38:15,480 yeah I'm looking forward to that I think 1063 00:38:18,470 --> 00:38:16,800 there's always that bringing it back to 1064 00:38:21,589 --> 00:38:18,480 UFOs so what are they going to see up 1065 00:38:24,530 --> 00:38:21,599 there are we going to get some 4K live 1066 00:38:26,150 --> 00:38:24,540 stream on the go live shots of the Moon 1067 00:38:28,730 --> 00:38:26,160 because all we've got which is crazy to 1068 00:38:30,589 --> 00:38:28,740 think about is stuff from 50 years ago 1069 00:38:33,170 --> 00:38:30,599 you know with old camera footage old 1070 00:38:34,970 --> 00:38:33,180 cameras and yeah we've not been back but 1071 00:38:37,310 --> 00:38:34,980 Dan the question is why but that's for 1072 00:38:40,010 --> 00:38:37,320 another podcast and another time 1073 00:38:41,750 --> 00:38:40,020 um or you can tune into Gaia TV and 1074 00:38:44,030 --> 00:38:41,760 watch why we've not been back to them in 1075 00:38:45,050 --> 00:38:44,040 a four-part series starring I won't name 1076 00:38:48,230 --> 00:38:45,060 anyone 1077 00:38:50,390 --> 00:38:48,240 watches Gaia TV 1078 00:38:52,310 --> 00:38:50,400 um question from Ernie out in la I love 1079 00:38:53,930 --> 00:38:52,320 the name Ernie by the way uh yeah 1080 00:38:55,190 --> 00:38:53,940 probably anything that's dying out I 1081 00:38:57,650 --> 00:38:55,200 like that one but out in Los Angeles 1082 00:38:59,270 --> 00:38:57,660 says Andy and Dan acknowledging the fact 1083 00:39:01,010 --> 00:38:59,280 that no one knows for sure I'm always 1084 00:39:02,930 --> 00:39:01,020 curious where your current theories are 1085 00:39:04,790 --> 00:39:02,940 regarding what the others actually are 1086 00:39:06,349 --> 00:39:04,800 future humans Cosmic Travelers 1087 00:39:08,569 --> 00:39:06,359 multi-dimensional beings at this very 1088 00:39:10,250 --> 00:39:08,579 moment Dan we've not talked about that 1089 00:39:12,410 --> 00:39:10,260 one for a while but quickly from you 1090 00:39:15,230 --> 00:39:12,420 what's what's your kind of theory at the 1091 00:39:17,089 --> 00:39:15,240 minute where do you sit I mean I I love 1092 00:39:19,250 --> 00:39:17,099 my kind of outdoor science so I've got 1093 00:39:20,569 --> 00:39:19,260 to go with a bit of everything uh you 1094 00:39:22,670 --> 00:39:20,579 know we've been told the universe is 1095 00:39:24,290 --> 00:39:22,680 teeming with life so I I can't imagine 1096 00:39:26,210 --> 00:39:24,300 it's anything less than a bit of 1097 00:39:29,150 --> 00:39:26,220 everything uh but the whole Advent of 1098 00:39:31,430 --> 00:39:29,160 chat GPT is making me think well if 1099 00:39:34,370 --> 00:39:31,440 we're designing something that can help 1100 00:39:35,630 --> 00:39:34,380 Humanity then in a hundred years what 1101 00:39:37,609 --> 00:39:35,640 does that look like is it going to give 1102 00:39:39,650 --> 00:39:37,619 us plans for a time machine and say hey 1103 00:39:42,290 --> 00:39:39,660 go back here and start nudging Humanity 1104 00:39:45,410 --> 00:39:42,300 in this direction even an appearance of 1105 00:39:47,930 --> 00:39:45,420 the uh east coast of the United States 1106 00:39:49,970 --> 00:39:47,940 of America to a pilot named David fravor 1107 00:39:51,589 --> 00:39:49,980 will change everything so so make that 1108 00:39:52,849 --> 00:39:51,599 appearance you know throw the throw the 1109 00:39:54,290 --> 00:39:52,859 rock in the river there and see what 1110 00:39:57,170 --> 00:39:54,300 happens 1111 00:40:00,530 --> 00:39:57,180 um the other part of me thinks that some 1112 00:40:03,290 --> 00:40:00,540 of what we're seeing is extremophiles 1113 00:40:05,510 --> 00:40:03,300 um that is life that can survive in in 1114 00:40:07,430 --> 00:40:05,520 really crazy conditions 1115 00:40:10,849 --> 00:40:07,440 um and it's something that we just don't 1116 00:40:13,970 --> 00:40:10,859 expect so a very nope kind of 1117 00:40:15,650 --> 00:40:13,980 idea there but uh yeah the more I read 1118 00:40:17,450 --> 00:40:15,660 about things like the slights and things 1119 00:40:18,770 --> 00:40:17,460 like that playing with people and toying 1120 00:40:20,390 --> 00:40:18,780 around we always hear that those 1121 00:40:22,130 --> 00:40:20,400 descriptions 1122 00:40:24,589 --> 00:40:22,140 um I I think we might be seeing some 1123 00:40:26,810 --> 00:40:24,599 some strange form of life there 1124 00:40:28,310 --> 00:40:26,820 it's a very big question and I think I'd 1125 00:40:31,370 --> 00:40:28,320 end up answering the same as you but 1126 00:40:33,470 --> 00:40:31,380 I'll narrow my answer down to what the 1127 00:40:35,329 --> 00:40:33,480 US Army is coming into contact with 1128 00:40:37,370 --> 00:40:35,339 which isn't for an adversarial Tech 1129 00:40:40,849 --> 00:40:37,380 which some of it will be I think they're 1130 00:40:43,190 --> 00:40:40,859 seeing a mix of some kind of drone from 1131 00:40:44,810 --> 00:40:43,200 some other species that was either left 1132 00:40:47,690 --> 00:40:44,820 behind here and has been here for a long 1133 00:40:49,630 --> 00:40:47,700 time or is visiting from elsewhere and 1134 00:40:52,430 --> 00:40:49,640 doing a bit of Recon for whatever reason 1135 00:40:54,710 --> 00:40:52,440 and I think you know and again they come 1136 00:40:56,870 --> 00:40:54,720 across something that's piloted manned 1137 00:40:58,849 --> 00:40:56,880 you know as such using that manned quote 1138 00:41:01,430 --> 00:40:58,859 unquote Mankind's 1139 00:41:02,630 --> 00:41:01,440 um and yeah isn't human so yeah good 1140 00:41:04,849 --> 00:41:02,640 question always nice to think about 1141 00:41:07,609 --> 00:41:04,859 because it changes from time to time 1142 00:41:10,310 --> 00:41:07,619 um to round up yeah almost every week 1143 00:41:12,290 --> 00:41:10,320 yeah um to round up uh what are you up 1144 00:41:14,089 --> 00:41:12,300 to this month because you are in 1145 00:41:16,190 --> 00:41:14,099 Colombia and for those who may not know 1146 00:41:18,230 --> 00:41:16,200 you're going to be working on a project 1147 00:41:19,910 --> 00:41:18,240 that's right yeah so so I'm here in 1148 00:41:21,589 --> 00:41:19,920 Colombia literally I'll be meeting a 1149 00:41:23,690 --> 00:41:21,599 Vinnie of disclosure team today and a 1150 00:41:26,510 --> 00:41:23,700 whole bunch of other awesome folk and 1151 00:41:29,270 --> 00:41:26,520 we're going to be looking at a phenomena 1152 00:41:31,010 --> 00:41:29,280 on a mountain uh called La Pena de waica 1153 00:41:34,490 --> 00:41:31,020 and these things are called the dancing 1154 00:41:37,670 --> 00:41:34,500 lights last year we got footage of them 1155 00:41:38,870 --> 00:41:37,680 um but as cool as the footage was a lot 1156 00:41:40,790 --> 00:41:38,880 of people had ideas like maybe it's 1157 00:41:42,530 --> 00:41:40,800 hikers with torches and things like that 1158 00:41:44,690 --> 00:41:42,540 so this year we're going to be testing a 1159 00:41:47,990 --> 00:41:44,700 lot of those ideas and we've got thermal 1160 00:41:50,030 --> 00:41:48,000 drones and tri-field meters so the idea 1161 00:41:52,970 --> 00:41:50,040 is that we can kind of 1162 00:41:55,069 --> 00:41:52,980 answer some questions about uh this 1163 00:41:56,930 --> 00:41:55,079 absolute Enigma that is transfixed the 1164 00:41:59,089 --> 00:41:56,940 the towns near the mountain and 1165 00:42:01,609 --> 00:41:59,099 hopefully shed a little light on the UFO 1166 00:42:03,050 --> 00:42:01,619 mystery along the way uh a TV show is 1167 00:42:04,849 --> 00:42:03,060 being made as we go so this will be 1168 00:42:07,010 --> 00:42:04,859 season two of phenomenology the first 1169 00:42:08,690 --> 00:42:07,020 season is up uh you know you can go rent 1170 00:42:11,030 --> 00:42:08,700 that if you want to 1171 00:42:13,250 --> 00:42:11,040 um but I'll I'll be posting um and so of 1172 00:42:15,170 --> 00:42:13,260 any a whole bunch of things on social 1173 00:42:16,310 --> 00:42:15,180 media kind of daily Diaries those kind 1174 00:42:18,650 --> 00:42:16,320 of things 1175 00:42:20,450 --> 00:42:18,660 um as we go so hopefully we get some 1176 00:42:22,010 --> 00:42:20,460 exciting footage when we find some 1177 00:42:24,290 --> 00:42:22,020 amazing things 1178 00:42:26,569 --> 00:42:24,300 awesome and this is off the back of your 1179 00:42:28,130 --> 00:42:26,579 recent success with uh Kim Kardashian I 1180 00:42:29,450 --> 00:42:28,140 believe you were doing some filming I 1181 00:42:32,270 --> 00:42:29,460 may have made that up but I don't know 1182 00:42:33,589 --> 00:42:32,280 you've got it mixed up to any listeners 1183 00:42:36,109 --> 00:42:33,599 who want to know what that's referencing 1184 00:42:38,329 --> 00:42:36,119 just just go Google Kim Kardashian Danza 1185 00:42:40,370 --> 00:42:38,339 just wrong and it will pop up and 1186 00:42:42,050 --> 00:42:40,380 tragically you will get the correct 1187 00:42:44,650 --> 00:42:42,060 search result when you search that as 1188 00:42:47,630 --> 00:42:44,660 well which is which is which is sad 1189 00:42:50,150 --> 00:42:47,640 Photoshop and yeah just to kind of 1190 00:42:52,250 --> 00:42:50,160 saturate with all your hard work across 1191 00:42:54,589 --> 00:42:52,260 many many fields done with many many 1192 00:42:57,349 --> 00:42:54,599 different people what you're famous for 1193 00:43:00,589 --> 00:42:57,359 is uh some no I wouldn't spoil it people 1194 00:43:02,270 --> 00:43:00,599 can go look and yeah um so I get this 1195 00:43:05,870 --> 00:43:02,280 but nothing earlier this week folks but 1196 00:43:07,609 --> 00:43:05,880 uh this breakdown uh Dan's gonna be more 1197 00:43:08,750 --> 00:43:07,619 free towards the end of the month he's 1198 00:43:10,130 --> 00:43:08,760 going to have a busy a couple of weeks 1199 00:43:11,390 --> 00:43:10,140 but we'll maybe get something recorded 1200 00:43:12,710 --> 00:43:11,400 in the middle of it with an update and 1201 00:43:14,510 --> 00:43:12,720 if there's any more news if hearings 1202 00:43:16,250 --> 00:43:14,520 come up and the interview with graham 1203 00:43:17,569 --> 00:43:16,260 Randall it had to be rescheduled by a 1204 00:43:19,490 --> 00:43:17,579 few days because Graham had a bad cold 1205 00:43:21,349 --> 00:43:19,500 so he's that'll be out in the next day 1206 00:43:23,809 --> 00:43:21,359 or so as well and there'll probably be 1207 00:43:25,790 --> 00:43:23,819 another show F not Saturday Sunday by 1208 00:43:27,829 --> 00:43:25,800 Monday as well then back to normal 1209 00:43:29,270 --> 00:43:27,839 scheduling too so thank you very much 1210 00:43:30,829 --> 00:43:29,280 for tuning in thank you very much for 1211 00:43:32,870 --> 00:43:30,839 listening and if you have not left 1212 00:43:34,490 --> 00:43:32,880 listen to it yet check out the preview 1213 00:43:36,290 --> 00:43:34,500 for April so you know 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